It occurs to me that the water used to add an active agent into must have touched other homeopathic agents in it's life time. So when "Dr" K and "soul doctor" prescribe something they have no idea what they are giving you.
For this question I'm assuming that water can 'remember' things that aren't there anymore and I will treat this as fact for this question which I feel is generous. I am anti-homeopathy and make no bones about it. ADDED
well K , .....recommend/perscribe. much the same.. still means you condone it does it not
So basically no answer to the question then
I can dis-prove it!. of course I can. with the same two arguements I've used before
THINGS GET WEAKER AS YOU DILUTE THEM
EVEN IF WATER HAS A MEMORY, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS IT TOUCHES. other homeopathic agents for example.
What's the harm? how about the fact that homeopathic shops say that it can protect you from malaria
How about people taking it instead of real medicine.
if u recommend such a faddy unproved treatment ur quals are in quest
CAT LADY I don't think you have any knowledge of quantum Physics. If you would like to discuss some of your knowledge with me I'm sure I could limp through a discussion.
I'm tying to stop you guys lulling people into a diluded but nice sounding trap.
what negitive experience with medicine did you have that turned you on to this. I'm sorry you suffered but this isn't the way. This is just one of the questions that the homeopathic crowd does not want to be asked. They fall back on anecdotal testimonials and pseudo scientific hog wash. It doesn't. If you are "anti-homeopathy" why do you ask a question about it?
Whether water has memory or what it "remembers" is a question for quantum physics so unless you are educated in that field and doing or reading research about it, it's not a question that is germaine for a user or practitioner of homeopathy.
I am "anti" conventional medical practice which I at least have some knowledge and a lifetime of experience with. I don't go on the Health board and challenge it. I beg your pardon, but I do not appreciate words being place into my mouth. Nor do I appreciate you questioning my education. It is insulting and unprofessional.
I have never professed to being a homeopath. It's not my specialty. If one of my patients request a homeopathic treatment, I refer to a well known homeopathic doctor in town. Why? Patients will go regardless of whatever you say and seek any homeopath who may be formally trained or some kid who learned about it online. What's the point in being condescending towards my patients? Sure, I'm right, but then again, I'll lose that patient and related patients as friends or family. And what's the big deal with homeopathy anyways? I tell my patients the same... research is mixed, some patients benefit from it, some don't. You may give it a try, there's no serious side effects. Worse case, you drank an expensive vial of water.
And to answer your main question. Sorry, I don't have an answer for it. Again, homeopathy is not my specialty. The homeopathic physician has explained the numerous theories and I've researched upon it as well. At this time, there's no conclusive evidence to prove or disapprove the theories. Evidenced based research itself is mixed, some statistically perform better than placebo level, some at placebo level, some with no marked results. So, I keep an open mind and see what really works and what doesn't. And truly, what is the point of bashing this alternative method of healing? Out of the all the weird or far out alternative methods of healing I've seen, I don't have a problem with this. Again, what's the side effects with homeopathy? None. And if it doesn't work? You drank some expensive water. Homeopathy should be the least of your worries. There are far more dangerous quacks out there. Thanks for the rant. I have no idea.
Why don't you come up with a research model to open mindely test this hypothesis?
NB. Are you 'Welome in the Greek Language' using a different handle?
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Homeopathy research has had mixed results. Reductionist homeopathic research hasn't shown it to be especially effective but why would it? Is homeopathy a reductionist therapy?
Using the reductionist model for research it is very easy to design an experiment proving or disproving virtually anything.
If the research model was good it would be virtually impossible to refute research. As it stands if someone disagrees with a set of results a research body (often backed by Big Pharma and loads of cash) designs an experiment which refutes the results.
I think its about time the research model moved on.
Many inteligent people report good results from therapies which are 'proven to be no more efffective than placebo' and this just gets writen off as 'unscientific Anecdote' but no detailed proven methodology or proven clinical reasoning is ever offered as an explanation to why the treatment worked instead of the reasons given by the patient or the altmed therapist.
All that is offered is 'its all in the mind'. How about scientists give credible explanation as to what happens to unlock the healing process in the placebo effect?
If patients only get better when allopathy fails 'because of the time and care invested by the practitioner' why are allopaths so reluctant to invest that care and time?
I will remember your name don't worry. Be sure to remember mine you will be reminded of it again soon enough.
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In response to your mail the last comment could be misunderstood and taken as a silly threat. My apologies. I got sick of a disrespectful AMA minion using this site as an anti-altmed rant and I used to chase him around the boards until he made his Q&A's private. I though you were him using a different handle. I no longer think that is the case.
I'm not waving the banner for Homeopathy, I'm just pointing out the shortfalls in research practice which is labeled as 'Scientific'.
I think a better research model should be applied to all therapies in testing not just the medical model for testing which is very flawed.
Most drugs are not trialled with the same scrutiny as homeopathy by virtue of the fact that the drugs companies design their own research models and test the drugs they have developed themselves therefore it cannot be independant.
There is a quote in the bible which talks about removing the plank from your own eye before looking at the spec in your brothers.
Allopaths talk about conventional medicine as if it is flawless, has all the answers and that they cannot learn anything form anyone and insist everyone uses their model and philosophy for practice. Until they can prove that their research model is perfect I will not subscribe to this view. | 